From what you have said your situation seems quite simple: your friends aren't authentic. They are lound and rude to cover up their insecurities and hide their ture self. You should feel comfortable around your friends. They are supposed to be there for you through the bad and the good. If they can't understand and resprect your opinion then they don't deserve you as their friend.
In my experience those who are not themselves and pretend, are not worth your time and should be thrown out. I recommend a spring cleaning of your friends. Go out and enjoy yourself with people who understand you and appreciate your point of view.
Montoya
Thursday, October 20, 2011
Monday, October 17, 2011
Continued Robert and Unity in Chapters 15-17
Throughout all three chapters this great unity is seen during the fiesta. This is very different from the beginning of the novel; even though the spend a lot of time together the friendship really isn't seen. While at the fiesta everyone is friends with everyone.
"Some dancers formed a circle around Brett and started to dance...They took Bill and me by the arms and put us in the circle. Bill started to dance. They were all chanting." (page 159)
These chapters all have multiple examples like this one where random strangers pick them up and have fun, whether is drinking or dancing, or shopping. In a different way these chapters are showing the friendship between all of these strangers over a festival. This section of the novel seems to be the one area that expresses some resemblance to a feeling of family and happiness.
In this section we also see more of where Jake's dislike of Cohn could come from. As everybody is out drinking Jake doesn't know where Cohn is and finally finds out that he passed out awhile ago. This does not improve Roberts situation with regard to Jake as not being able to hold your liquor is not very manly as see in the dialogue:
"'What a lot we've drunk.'
'You mean what a lot we've drunk. You went to sleep.'" (page 163)
Also Jake opinion of Cohn is further diminished when Cohn thinks "'I'm only afraid I may be bored.'"(page 165) This paired with Cohns actual reaction, where he nearly puked, also lessens Jakes view of Cohn.
Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Passage
'The sort of healthy conceit that he had when he returned from American early in the spring was gone. Then he had been sure of his work, only with these personal longings for adventure. Now the sureness was gone. Somehow I feel I have not shown Robert Cohn clearly. The reason is that until he fell in love with Brett, I never heard him make one remark that would, in any way, detach him from other people. He was nice to watch on the tennis-court, he had a good body, and he kept it in shape; he handled his cards well at bridge, and he had a funny sort of undergraduate quality about him. If he were in a crowd nothing he said stood out. He wore what used to be called polo shirts at school, and may be called that still, but he was not professionally youthful. I do not believe he thought about his clothes much. Externally he had been formed at Princeton. Internally he had been molded by the two women who had trained him. He had a nice boyish sort of cheerfulness that had never been trained out of him, and I probably have not brought it out. He loved to win at tennis. He probably loved to win as much as Lenglen, for instance. On the other hand, he was not angry at being beaten. When he fell in love with Brett his tennis game went all to pieces. People beat him who never had a change with him. He was nice about it."
Page 51-52
I chose this passage because this shows Cohn as a foil similar to the first chapter. And this passage also shows the way that Jake sees Cohn. Reading this passage displays the way that Jake views Cohn as a child by refering to him as a boy, and describing him as having "a funny sort of of undergraduate quality." From this you can see that Jake sees him as a lesser man than himself because he acts like a younger person. Jake also compares Cohn to a woman, Lenglen, this further emasculates Cohn and displays Jakes view of Robert. From this passage we also learn quite a lot about Cohn's personality and how it developed.
"Wimbledon - Suzanne Lenglen."Wimbledon - The Home of Wimbledon. N.p., n.d. Web. 12 Oct. 2011.
I think that the passage Naoise chose is important because here we can really see the relationship that Brett and Jake have together. In this passage we can also see that the relationship they do have it more complicated than just a passing fancy. We also get some insight into Brett personality in this passage. Because we understand that Brett and Jake cannot be together even though they clearly have feelings, we see Brett try and distance herself from him by traveling and Jake just wants to spend time with her. This displays Brett as part of the lost generation because she is just trying to run away from the problem instead of trying to work something out for the two of them.
After reading Naoise's justification I now understand more of Jake's reaction in the passage. As throughout the entire novel sentimentality sentimentality is frowned upon and here Jake expresses is feelings. I find it interesting that throughout the novel emotional episodes are frowned upon and the minute that Jake is sentimental he is rejected by Brett, this shows that even Brett who professes to love his does feel comfortable talking about emotions and sees Jake as weaker when he does.
Monday, October 10, 2011
Coverage-
Blog 1: http://samantha94englishblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/ian-johnstons-dramatic-structure-comedy.html
Blog 7: http://samantha94englishblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/antagonist-is-person-who-is-opposed-to.html
Wildcard-http://samantha94englishblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/antagonist-is-person-who-is-opposed-to.html
Allusions in TSAR
1. Basques
Meaning- Basques are people from Basque. Basques people
living in both Spain and France. The families tended to be very isolated
because of the large farms so the people tending them became like family.
In the book- The Characters spend time in both France and
Spain. The characters seem like each of them may be separate farms because each
is very isolated emotionally, however they move around together and spend a lot
of time together and are like the Basques in that way.
"Basque." Encyclopædia Britannica. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. Encyclopædia Britannica, 2011. Web. 09 Oct. 2011. <http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/55335/Basque>.
2. Ronceveaux
Meaning – Roncevaux was where there was a battle in 778
A.C.E.. It is a mountain pass in Spain.
In the book – They go near the pass, Jake points it out
when they are on the bus.
"Pass of
Roncesvalles." Encyclopædia Britannica. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. Encyclopædia Britannica, 2011. Web. 09 Oct.
2011. <http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/509069/Pass-of-Roncesvalles>.
3. Fratellinis
Meaning- The Fratellinis were a family in the late 1800’s
that were known for their circus act.
In the Book- The Fratellinis are mentioned during the
conversation about irony and pity. When mentioned they said that the
Fratellinis were all about irony and pity.
"Our
Story." Fratellini . N.p., n.d. Web. 9 Oct. 2011.
.
4. Primo de Rivera
Meaning- Primo de Rivera was a man who fought in many
battles and saw the end of the Spanish empire. Primo de Rivera then wanted to
send out an army, unfortunately the populous didn’t agree with de Rivera.
In the Book- Bill mentions Primo de Rivera as he tries to
get Jake to say something ironic.
Trueman,
Chris . "Primo de Rivera." History Learning Site. N.p., n.d. Web. 9 Oct. 2011.
5. Dred Scott (case)
Meaning- The Dred Scott case took place in 1857. This
case was about a slave who, after his original owner died sued for freedom
because they had moved onto freeland. Dred Scott was first given to another man
however his new owner, John Sanford tried to help him to gain his freedom. In
the end Dred Scott remained a slave.
In the book- Bill
talks about the US and mentions the Dred Scott case as being framed by ‘the Anti-Saloon League.’
"Dred
Scott Case." United States American History. N.p., n.d. Web. 9 Oct. 2011. .
6. Anti-Saloon league
Meaning- The Anti-Saloon League was a group of people
wanted to inform people about the evils of alcohol.
In the book- It is such a clash with the novel because
the characters are perpetually drunk.
Schwartz,
David. "Anti-Saloon League 1893-1933." Public History Resource Center. N.p., n.d. Web. 9 Oct. 2011.
.
7. AEW Mason
Meaning -AEW Mason was an author most famously known for
“The Four Feathers.”
In the Book- Jake is reading a book by AEW Mason
8. William Jennings Bryan
Meaning- William Jennings Bryan was elected to congress
twice and grew in popularity “due largely to his strong advocacy offree silver,
opposition to high protective tariffs and oratorical
skills.”
In the book- Bill and Jake talk about Bryan and whether or
not they liked him.
9. Mencken
Meaning- Mencken was individualistic, a libertarian, and
a journalist.
In the book- It is mentioned when they are drinking as
they refer to the quality I think. Mencken appears at first to be like Jake a
little because he is a journalist, however the rest of Mencken’s
characteristics are the opposite of those part of the lost generation.
"H. L.
Mencken: The Joyous Libertarian by Murray N. Rothbard." LewRockwell.com. N.p., n.d. Web. 9 Oct. 2011.
10. Holy Cross
Meaning- The Holy
cross is a peak in the Sawatch Range of the Rocky Mountains in west-central
Colorado. However it is also a college.
In the Book- They mention Holy Cross because they say
they went there with Mencken however this is not true.
"Holy
Cross - definition of Holy Cross by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and
Encyclopedia.." Dictionary, Encyclopedia and Thesaurus - The Free
Dictionary. N.p., n.d. Web. 9 Oct. 2011.
11. Frankie Fritsch (misspelled in text)
Meaning- Frankie Fritsch was a baseball player for the
Cardinals and the Giants.
In the Book- They claim that Frankie Fritsch went to Holy
cross with them, but then it is also found out to be false.
"Frankie
Frisch Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com." Baseball-Reference.com - Major League Baseball
Statistics and History. N.p., n.d. Web. 9 Oct. 2011.
12. Bishop Manning
Meaning – He was as bishop in the Episcopal Church in the
1880’s.
In the book- Jake also claims that he went to school with
Manning.
13. Wayne B. Wheeler
Meaning- Wheeler made it possible for prohibition to
happen.
In the book- seems that opposite goal of the character in
TSAR, as they are always drunk. Wheeler was trying to close the bar and such because
of people like the characters in TSAR.
Okrent,
Daniel. "Wayne B. Wheeler: The Man Who Turned Off the Taps | History &
Archaeology | Smithsonian Magazine." History, Travel, Arts, Science, People, Places
| Smithsonian Magazine. N.p., n.d. Web. 9 Oct. 2011.
.
14. Pres. Calvin Coolidge
Meaning- Pres. Coolidge was the 30th president
of the United States. Coolidge was a Republican and his father held an
important role in his community.
In the Book- He is mentioned as a person that had dreams
and fulfilled them.
"American
President: Calvin Coolidge: A Life in Brief." Miller Center. N.p., n.d. Web. 9 Oct. 2011.
Sunday, October 9, 2011
Marching...
Where is it set?
On the way to battle
What’s going on?
Men are marching to their deaths
Men are singing
Who’s involved?
Soldiers
What’s going to
happen?
Many of them are going to die
What contributes
to the significance of this passage?
They are going to give back to the earth
Rhyme
Some Rhythm
Repetition –‘so be merry, so be dead,’ earth, S at the
end,
Structure- indentations
Step 3:
Who is speaking?
A man who knows about the marching to death
To whom are they
speaking?
To the soldiers
What is their situation?
Purpose?
The men are marching off to battle. They are probably
going to die in the upcoming battle.
Where is the setting?
Purpose?
Hills and Valleys
How does the
author use tone, style, diction? Purpose?
Singing vocabulary, repetitive (gladness), up lifting (flowing)
diction, the tone is quite happy for a poem about the walk to death, but at the
same time appears to be sarcastic because the author is saying that the soldiers should
be happy even though they are walking to their deaths.
What patterns do
you see? Structure, Form, Repetition?
Indentations – directly talking about singing and giving
to the earth (main idea to give back to the earth)
Repetition-“So be merry, so be dead” (importance that
they can be together death and happiness)
Gladness
‘s’ at the beginning of lines, at the end of poem
Earth
Sing
Death
All the patterns can be seen as circular
Rhythm- adds to the reader’s perception of the marching,
around the same length,
Rhyming – adds to the readers perception of marching
Pulls the lines together à
What tension do you
see? Contrasts, Conflicts, Ironies?
The contrast between the sadness of death and the
happiness of the poem
Step 4:
Circle of life because the Earth will be happy for the death
(not in an evil way) because it will help flower bloom and create beauty from
death
To give back to the Earth, not to be so depressed that
you are going off to die, but be happy because your happiness will be
remembered by the earth
All of this is ridiculous in the opinion of the speaker
Step 5:
Diction – repetition
Structure – indentation, rhythm, rhyme
Tone- (diction), contrast (‘happiness’ of the poem, and
then the sadness of death) = sarcasm
Step 6:
Introduction
Author- Charles Hamilton Sorley
Written between 1895-1915
Talking about WWI
Sorley uses diction, tone and structure to comment on the
death of soldiers and how absurd it is to talk about happiness when they are
walking to their deaths
Paragraph 1
Tone
-Originally feels happy
-Sarcastic because of the contrast between the happiness
of the diction, with the sadness of death
-effect of this makes it feel the opposite of the
original perception, deflating, death is coming and there’s nothing the
soldiers can do.
-So be merry so be dead – you are happy and then you’re dead
Nothing that’s going to change
Low chance of survival – ‘little live, great pass’
Only thing that will benefit is the ground
Paragraph 2
Diction
-Makes it feel like a ‘happy’ and uplifting poem
-Contrasts with the topic of the poem
-Repetition
-Gladness
-Emphasize
the happiness of the earth
-“So
be merry, so be dead”
-Returning
to the fact they ‘should be glad’ even though the will die
-Bringing
they idea that they are going to die up repeatedly, and that the earth will
benefit, and that the earth seems to be the only ones, final shows us that they
poem is not up lifting
-Jesus Christ and Barabbas
-good
and bad
Paragraph 3
Structure
-pulls out the repetitious parts
-the same ideas are repeated in the indented areas
-Rhythm
-adds
to the readers marching because of the pace of the poem due to the syllables
-
the poem feels paced
-Rhyme
-adds
to the readers marching
-connects
the lines together stronger
-brings
the entire poem together because of the pattern
Conclusion
Wednesday, October 5, 2011
Robert's Change
The connection between Roberts changes and America as a whole's change was an interesting idea that came up during the discussion and I think that this connection could be quite important to Robert character. America had just come out of a war successful in The Sun Also Rises and then proceeded to go into an isolationism period. This is reflected in Roberts change after returning from America. As Jake says he was a "nice boy" before he went he also informs us that he is not since his return from America. Robert was also successful like the U.S. had been in the war, as he had done well in the publishing of his book. After returning to Paris his is rejected by his friends and spends his time alone, while the U.S. also spent a good deal of time apart from Europe and the rest of the world.
I also think that the values of America made Robert feel powerful, and inflated his ego. Because Robert feels inferior to Jake because Jake went to war, I feel that some of the ego that was the product of his success in America is due to the fact he feels as powerful, successful, or as manly as Jake. Unfortunately because everyone dislikes Robert he is still rejected and considered a boy in many circumstances because he has not been to war like many of Jake's friends. "Robert has not been to war, and he acts as if he is an equal among Jake and his friends who have all been to war, and that frustrates Jake," I agree with Kanchans statement here.
I also wonder at the connections between Robert and Jake's situations and personalities. The discussion we had came upon the similarities in their situations and relationship problems but I also wonder at whether there is more to Roberts success in America; and his further failure in relationships and Jake's success in surviving the war; but loosing his ability to have sex. Because of the similar successes and failures I think that this might also have contributed to the hatred Jake has towards Robert because he sees all of his own failures in Robert.
Tuesday, October 4, 2011
From a long time ago...
I also found the transition between court and the forest was also amazing. I think that the way that the trees appeared added to the magical attributes that we experience during the characters stay in the forest, furthering the Pastoral nature of the play. Because if the magical features of the forest appearing out of the court it also foreshadows the similarities of between the two settings.
The characters in the play are also quite helpful to understand there position in each situation. In the Globe production Rosalind and Celia both are wearing very restrictive because of the fashion. This introduces the reader and audience of the restrictive nature of the court that is discussed further in the play by many different characters. This is also seen in the change in their attire when they more to the forest and both are wearing clothing that does not confine as much as their court wear. Also the jester is very dressed up while in the court and removes him from the more important people of the court, while in the forest he is dresses like every one else. This change assists the contributes to the idea in the pastoral that every one is equal.
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